0:00 a hospital, right?
0:01 The entire telemetry network, the heart monitors,
0:05 the IV pumps, the surgical readouts,
0:07 just suddenly freezing.
0:08 Oh, wow.
0:09 Yeah, just going completely black.
0:11 Exactly, going completely black.
0:12 And the crazy thing is the backup generators
0:15 are running fine.
0:16 The physical infrastructure is perfectly intact,
0:19 but the data flowing between the machines
0:21 has just, you know, stopped.
0:23 Because it isn't a power grid failure.
0:25 Right.
0:26 It's because someone, maybe three states away,
0:28 clicked on a disguised macro embedded
0:31 in like a random invoice PDF.
0:33 Yeah, sounds like a movie plot, but...
0:35 But it's not.
0:36 It is the absolute reality of our digital age.
0:38 And I think it's the ultimate modern paradox.
0:41 We've built this incredible reality for ourselves
0:43 where the very connectivity driving our world,
0:46 the tech that makes everything instantaneous
0:49 for you and me,
0:50 is simultaneously our single softest underbelly.
0:53 I mean, that interconnectivity
0:54 is entirely by design though.
0:55 We built a digital ecosystem
0:57 that prioritizes speed, right?
0:59 Speed and frictionless access
1:00 above literally everything else.
1:02 Right, we want everything right now.
1:04 Exactly, but the architectural reality
1:06 is that you cannot have frictionless access
1:09 without also creating a frictionless attack surface.
1:14 Oh, that's a great way to put it.
1:15 Yeah, the more we rely on these interconnected systems
1:18 to run our physical world,
1:19 the more we expose the physical world
1:21 to, well, digital vulnerabilities.
1:24 Which brings us to exactly what we're doing today.
1:26 Welcome to your custom deep dive.
1:29 Today, we are looking at a foundational piece
1:32 of source material
1:32 that gets right to the heart of this tension.
1:35 It's a document simply titled Cybersecurity,
1:38 Protecting Information in the Digital Age.
1:41 It's a short title,
1:42 but it covers a massive amount of ground.
1:44 It really does.
1:45 And our mission for this deep dive
1:46 is to look at the actual mechanics
1:47 behind this digital arms race.
1:49 We wanna move way past corporate buzzwords, you know?
1:52 We need to understand the real threat landscape
1:55 targeting our data
1:56 and explore how trust is maintained
1:59 from the level of national power grids
2:00 down to the literal keyboard you are typing on right now.
2:03 And, you know, the concept of trust
2:06 is really the perfect starting point here.
2:08 Because in a digital environment, trust isn't a feeling.
2:11 It's an operational currency.
2:14 An operational currency, I like that.
2:16 Yeah.
2:17 And the source document frames this
2:18 around a core mission,
2:20 which in the field is often referred to as the CIA triad.
2:24 Right, the CIA triad.
2:26 Not the intelligence agency, obviously.
2:27 No, no, not the government agency.
2:29 It stands for ensuring the confidentiality,
2:31 integrity, and availability of data.
2:34 Right, confidentiality, integrity, and availability.
2:37 And I mean, since we're dealing
2:38 with a highly technical audience today,
2:40 it's tempting to just view those three things
2:42 as basic compliance check boxes.
2:44 Like, yep, check, check, check.
2:46 Oh, totally.
2:47 A lot of organizations do treat them that way.
2:49 But when you actually look
2:50 at the mechanics of recent breaches,
2:52 you realize this triad is really about the fragility
2:55 of that operational trust you just mentioned.
2:57 Exactly.
2:58 I mean, let's isolate integrity for a moment
3:00 because it's frequently overshadowed by confidentiality.
3:03 Yeah, everyone worries about confidentiality.
3:05 Yeah, when people think of a cyber attack,
3:06 they usually worry about their data being stolen.
3:09 You know, credit cards, proprietary code, private emails.
3:12 Sure, the classic data leak.
3:14 But integrity, which means ensuring the data
3:17 hasn't been subtly altered,
3:18 is arguably far more dangerous.
3:20 Wait, more dangerous than having your data stolen?
3:24 Oh, absolutely.
3:25 Consider the implications
3:27 if an attacker breaches a financial clearinghouse, right?
3:30 And they don't steal anything.
3:31 They just, they simply move decimal points in a ledger.
3:34 Oh, wow.
3:35 Or worse, they preach a medical database
3:37 and alter patient blood types.
3:39 Oh, that's terrifying
3:41 because the system hasn't actually lost any data.
3:43 Exactly.
3:44 The data is still there,
3:45 but it has become actively weaponized against the user.
3:48 It completely destroys the utility of the system.
3:50 I mean, if you can't trust the data,
3:52 the system might as well not exist.
3:53 Which leads us directly
3:55 into the third pillar availability.
3:57 Oh, right.
3:57 Because a system can be locked down so tightly
4:00 with perfect confidentiality and perfect integrity
4:03 that authorized users
4:05 can't actually access it during a crisis.
4:07 And if that happens, it's secure,
4:10 but it's completely useless.
4:12 Right.
4:12 The source emphasizes that cybersecurity
4:14 is this constant, really precarious balancing act
4:18 of these three pillars.
4:19 Yeah.
4:20 And to help visualize how this actually functions today
4:22 for you listening,
4:23 I think we need to update our mental models a bit.
4:26 Because for decades,
4:28 network security was explained
4:30 using the analogy of a medieval castle.
4:33 Oh yeah, the old Moten Castle analogy.
4:35 Right.
4:36 You had a perimeter.
4:36 You had a single drawbridge and thick walls.
4:39 But today's digital landscape is nothing like a castle.
4:43 It is a sprawling,
4:44 hyper-integrated modern metropolis.
4:47 Yes, exactly.
4:48 It's built entirely on interconnected APIs
4:50 and microservices.
4:51 You can't just put a single giant wall around it
4:53 because the city's entire economy relies
4:55 on millions of external vendors, remote workers,
4:58 and automated cloud processes
5:00 driving in and out every single second.
5:02 You're trying to secure the data
5:04 while keeping the traffic flowing at highway speeds.
5:06 Exactly.
5:07 You have to secure every individual door and window
5:09 while keeping the city running.
5:11 And that's why the perimeter is dead.
5:12 The perimeter is dead.
5:13 Completely.
5:15 If an organization is relying on a hard outer shell
5:17 to keep threats out,
5:19 they have already lost the war.
5:21 Modern security architecture basically assumes
5:23 the attacker is already inside the city limits.
5:26 Wow.
5:27 Assuming they're already in.
5:28 Yeah.
5:29 The focus has completely shifted
5:31 to securing individual data flows,
5:33 encrypting data at rest,
5:35 and rigorously verifying every single transaction
5:37 regardless of where it originates from.
5:39 Which really forces us to look closely
5:41 at the actors who are already inside the city, right?
5:44 Because the document outlines
5:45 a very specific threat landscape.
5:46 It does.
5:47 It cites malware, ransomware, identity theft,
5:51 and data breaches as the primary weapons.
5:53 But let's look at the actual mechanics of these threats
5:56 rather than just listing them off.
5:57 Ransomware, for instance.
5:58 That is a massive direct strike
6:00 on that availability pillar we just discussed.
6:03 The mechanism behind modern ransomware
6:04 is fascinating from a purely mathematical standpoint.
6:07 Fascinating, but brutal.
6:09 Brutal, yes.
6:11 Because it isn't just a virus
6:12 that simply crashes a hard drive anymore.
6:15 It exploits a network vulnerability
6:17 to deploy military-grade encryption
6:20 across an organization's entire infrastructure.
6:23 Right.
6:24 And the math behind something like, say, AES-256 encryption
6:28 is so robust that without the unique decryption key,
6:32 even the world's most powerful supercomputers
6:35 would take millions of years to brute force a solution.
6:38 Millions of years.
6:39 That's hard to even wrap your head around.
6:41 Right.
6:42 The computers aren't just hiding the data.
6:43 They are fundamentally altering its state.
6:45 They are literally forcing the organization
6:47 to pay for the mathematical solution
6:50 to unlock their own business operations.
6:52 So it's basically a hostage situation
6:54 built on cryptography.
6:55 That's exactly what it is.
6:56 But reading through the source,
6:58 especially its heavy focus on phishing and identity theft,
7:01 I actually want to push back a little
7:02 on the traditional narrative of how these attackers
7:04 gain entry in the first place.
7:05 I'll give a boost back.
7:06 How so?
7:07 Well, the popular image is still a syndicate
7:10 of attackers in a dark room writing incredibly complex code
7:13 to smash through a firewall.
7:15 But isn't the reality that most of these attackers
7:17 aren't even bothering to pick the lock?
7:19 They are just using psychological manipulation
7:22 to convince us to hand over the keys.
7:24 It seems like social engineering is the actual weapon here,
7:27 not raw computing power.
7:29 OK, I challenge that slightly.
7:31 Really?
7:31 Yeah, because while social engineering is incredibly
7:34 loud and highly visible, and yes, it's very common,
7:38 it is a mistake to write off deeply technical brute force
7:42 attacks entirely.
7:43 OK, fair enough.
7:44 You are definitely correct that social engineering,
7:46 things like phishing, spear phishing,
7:48 baiting, that is the most common initial entry
7:50 vector for opportunistic cyber criminals.
7:53 Because frankly, humans are vastly cheaper to hack
7:56 than enterprise-grade software.
7:58 Right, why break the software when you can just
7:59 trick the accountant?
8:00 Exactly.
8:01 But when we look at the broader threat landscape
8:03 detailed in the text, especially
8:05 concerning high-value targets,
8:07 we are dealing with advanced persistent threats or APTs.
8:11 And these are usually backed by nation-states, right?
8:14 Correct.
8:15 And a nation-state actor doesn't necessarily
8:17 need a human to click a malicious link.
8:19 Right.
8:19 They are hunting for zero-day vulnerabilities
8:22 in the underlying architecture.
8:24 We're talking about flaws in operating systems, routers,
8:27 or network hardware that even the manufacturers
8:30 themselves don't know exist yet.
8:31 Wow, so they're exploiting invisible cracks.
8:34 Yes.
8:35 Or they utilize supply chain attacks.
8:37 Which is huge right now.
8:38 Massive.
8:40 If a sophisticated group wants to compromise a major telecommunications
8:44 network, they might not attack the telecom directly.
8:47 So what do they do?
8:48 They will inject malicious code into a routine software
8:52 update issued by a trusted third-party vendor.
8:55 It's highly technical.
8:56 It's incredibly stealthy.
8:57 And it requires absolutely zero user interaction to deploy.
9:01 So we really are dealing with a vast spectrum
9:04 of threats here.
9:05 On one end, you have the Opportunistic Fishing Campaign
9:07 targeting an exhausted HR employee at 5 PM on a Friday.
9:12 Right, the low-hanging fruit.
9:13 And on the other end, you have highly sophisticated,
9:16 invisible attacks exploiting the foundational code
9:19 of our global infrastructure.
9:21 But both of which result in the cascading fallout
9:24 the source mentions.
9:25 Yes, the catastrophic financial losses,
9:28 the reputational damage, and the exposure
9:30 of highly sensitive information.
9:32 The fallout is identical, even
9:34 if the vectors are wildly different.
9:36 And I think because the attack vectors are so diverse,
9:39 the document explicitly divides the defensive burden
9:42 into two distinct arenas, right?
9:44 The macro level and the micro level.
9:46 At the macro level, organizations and governments
9:49 are defending systems where the stakes
9:51 are borderline existential.
9:53 The text explicitly mentions the protection
9:55 of national infrastructure.
9:57 And I mean, the scale of organizational investment
9:59 required at that macro level is staggering.
10:02 We are talking about defending water treatment facilities,
10:05 regional power grids, financial clearing
10:07 houses, global transportation network.
10:10 But they keep society running.
10:11 Exactly.
10:12 Defending those requires continuous behavioral
10:15 monitoring, aggressive network segmentation,
10:18 and real-time threat intelligence sharing
10:20 across international borders.
10:22 It's not just buying a firewall anymore.
10:23 Not even close.
10:25 An enterprise today operates a full security operations
10:28 center, SSOC, that analyzes terabytes of network traffic
10:33 logs every single day, just constantly searching
10:36 for a subtle anomaly that might indicate a nation-state actor
10:40 dwelling in the system.
10:41 Yet despite those multimillion dollar investments
10:43 at the macro level, the document pivots sharply
10:46 right back to the micro level,
10:47 back to the individual user.
10:49 Right back to you, me.
10:50 Yeah.
10:50 And since we already established that a massive portion
10:53 of attacks prey on human error,
10:55 individual behavior isn't just a footnote in this text.
10:57 It is literally a load-bearing pillar
10:59 of the entire global defense strategy.
11:02 It really is.
11:03 The text lists strong passwords, two-factor authentication,
11:07 and safe online behavior as the critical user requirements.
11:10 I mean, we need to elevate that conversation a bit, don't we?
11:13 We do.
11:14 Because anyone operating in a modern digital environment
11:16 already knows they should use two-factor authentication
11:19 or 2FA.
11:20 Right.
11:20 We've all got the app on our phones.
11:22 Exactly.
11:23 The critical issue today is understanding
11:26 how attackers are constantly adapting to bypass
11:28 those exact micro level defenses.
11:31 All right, because 2FA is definitely
11:33 no longer a silver bullet.
11:34 Far from it.
11:36 We are seeing a massive rise in techniques specifically
11:39 designed to neutralize it.
11:40 Take MFA fatigue, for example.
11:42 Oh, I've heard of this.
11:43 This is insidious.
11:44 It really is.
11:46 An attacker who has already compromised your password
11:48 doesn't even try to hack your phone.
11:50 They simply trigger the authentication app
11:51 to send approval requests to your phone
11:54 at like 3 0 AM over and over and over.
11:57 Just bombarding you.
11:58 Until you eventually hit approve out
12:00 of sheer exhaustion or confusion just to make it stop.
12:03 Or they use adversary in the middle attacks, right?
12:06 Yes.
12:07 The adversary in the middle, the attacker,
12:10 creates a flawless localized replica of your corporate login
12:14 page.
12:15 You type in your password, you type in your 2FA code,
12:17 and the attacker's script instantly
12:19 passes that code to the real website,
12:21 logging in and capturing your session token.
12:24 Which means we need a much better mental model
12:26 for how 2FA actually functions.
12:28 It shouldn't be viewed as just a second password.
12:31 No, it shouldn't.
12:32 It is much more like a safe deposit box at a bank.
12:35 You have a physical key, and the bank teller
12:37 has a physical key.
12:38 And that box only opens if both keys
12:41 are turned at the exact same physical location
12:43 at the exact same time.
12:44 That's a great analogy.
12:45 And modern security protocols are desperately
12:48 trying to replicate that physical constraint
12:50 digitally, right?
12:51 They are moving toward hardware keys or biometrics
12:54 that tie the authentication not just to a six digit code,
12:57 but to your specific cryptographic device
13:00 in your physical location.
13:01 Yes.
13:02 And that is a much more accurate representation
13:04 of where identity management has to go.
13:07 Because if we connect this back to the macro level
13:09 we talked about, an organization
13:11 can spend $50 million building a sophisticated zero trust
13:15 network.
13:15 Right.
13:16 But if an attacker successfully executes an adversary
13:19 in the middle attack and steals an employee's
13:21 session token, the network sees that attacker
13:24 as a verified, authorized user.
13:27 So the $50 million defense is bypassed entirely.
13:30 Entirely.
13:31 All because the micro level authentication was compromised.
13:34 It's wild.
13:34 We are building these incredibly complex defenses
13:37 for today's networks.
13:39 But the architecture of our digital city
13:40 is expanding outward at a dizzying pace.
13:43 Oh, it's accelerating.
13:44 And the document dedicates a specific section
13:46 to the horizon, outlining emerging challenges that
13:49 are essentially pouring gasoline on the fire.
13:51 It explicitly points to the rapid growth
13:53 of cloud computing, connected devices,
13:56 and artificial intelligence.
13:57 Let's break down cloud computing first,
13:58 because it completely changes the fundamental risk
14:01 profile of an organization.
14:02 OK, how so?
14:03 Well, the source notes it as a challenge.
14:06 And the primary reason is hyper-centralization.
14:08 Hyper-centralization.
14:10 Yeah.
14:11 When an enterprise moves its data and operations
14:13 to the cloud, it gains massive scalability
14:16 and cost efficiency.
14:18 But it also enters into a shared responsibility model.
14:21 Meaning the cloud provider secures the physical data
14:24 center and the foundational infrastructure.
14:26 But the organization is still entirely
14:28 responsible for configuring its own security policies
14:31 and data access rights.
14:32 Precisely.
14:33 And misconfiguration in the cloud is rampant.
14:36 Just human error.
14:37 Exactly.
14:38 If an administrator leaves an Amazon S3 storage
14:40 bucket completely public because of a minor typo
14:43 and a permission policy, it does not
14:45 matter how secure AWS's underlying infrastructure is.
14:48 The data is exposed.
14:49 That's terrifying.
14:51 Furthermore, cloud environments consolidate targets.
14:54 If a highly sophisticated attacker successfully breaches
14:57 a widely used cloud-based software provider,
15:00 they don't just compromise one company.
15:02 They potentially compromise thousands of companies
15:04 simultaneously.
15:05 So the blast radius of a cloud breach
15:07 is basically exponential.
15:08 Exactly, exponential blast radius.
15:10 And into that centralized cloud environment,
15:13 we are plugging billions of new connected devices
15:16 every single year.
15:18 The internet of things.
15:19 Oh, the IoT.
15:20 Yes.
15:20 Industrial sensors, smart infrastructure, medical
15:23 implants, connected thermostats.
15:26 And every single one of those devices has an IP address.
15:30 Each one is a potential window into the network.
15:33 Which is exactly where the talent cap mentioned in the text
15:36 becomes a critical systemic risk.
15:39 I was going to bring that up.
15:40 Yeah, the source states that the demand for cybersecurity
15:42 experts is expected to increase significantly
15:46 as these complexities mount.
15:48 But it's crucial to understand that this talent cap
15:50 isn't just a lack of graduates with computer science
15:53 degrees.
15:54 Right.
15:54 It's more than just a hiring issue.
15:56 The sheer volume of telemetry data
15:58 generated by billions of connected devices
16:00 combined with the speed of cloud environments
16:02 is causing profound burnout in the industry.
16:04 I can imagine.
16:05 Security professionals are dealing
16:06 with thousands of automated alerts every single day.
16:09 Finding the actual threat in that noise
16:11 is like finding a needle in a stadium full of haystacks.
16:14 So the talent gap is as much about cognitive overload
16:17 and retention as it is about recruitment.
16:20 Absolutely.
16:20 Which brings us to the elephant in the room,
16:23 artificial intelligence.
16:25 AI.
16:25 Here we go.
16:26 Yeah.
16:27 The document cites AI as a major emerging challenge
16:31 for security professionals.
16:32 And looking at this logically, the very tools
16:35 driving all of our modern innovation.
16:38 Cloud scalability, global connectivity, AI optimization
16:42 are the exact tools that are exponentially
16:45 increasing our threat surface.
16:46 Yes, they are.
16:48 So I have a philosophical question for you
16:49 based on this text.
16:50 OK, let's hear it.
16:51 Are innovation and security fundamentally at odds?
16:54 Like, are the technologies meant
16:55 to propel us forward, inherently making us less safe?
16:59 Wow.
16:59 Well, that is the central defining
17:01 tension of the field right now.
17:02 Is it?
17:03 Absolutely.
17:04 Innovation fundamentally requires experimentation, speed,
17:08 and pushing boundaries.
17:09 Security, on the other hand, fundamentally
17:11 requires caution, verification, and highly controlled
17:14 environments.
17:14 That's right, they are total opposites.
17:15 And when you introduce artificial intelligence
17:18 into that dynamic, you are handing incredibly powerful,
17:22 accelerating capabilities to both sides of the equation.
17:26 Because defenders use it too.
17:27 Exactly.
17:28 Defenders are currently using machine learning algorithms
17:30 to analyze massive sets of network traffic,
17:33 detecting anomalous behavior in milliseconds threats
17:37 that a human analyst could literally never spot in real time.
17:40 But the attackers have access to the exact same large language
17:44 models and machine learning frameworks.
17:46 And they are weaponizing them aggressively.
17:48 How so?
17:49 Well, attackers use AI to automate vulnerability
17:52 discovery across global networks.
17:54 They use it to write polymorphic malware.
17:56 Wait, what is polymorphic malware?
17:58 It's malicious code that constantly rewrites
18:00 its own signature to evade detection
18:02 by traditional antivirus software.
18:04 It changes shape.
18:05 Oh, wow.
18:06 So you can't just block it once.
18:07 Right.
18:08 And perhaps most dangerously, they're
18:10 using generative AI to craft highly targeted context
18:14 aware phishing emails at an industrial scale.
18:16 Making them virtually indistinguishable
18:18 from legitimate human communication.
18:21 Exactly.
18:21 AI is driving the cost of launching
18:24 a highly sophisticated attack down to near zero.
18:28 So to answer your philosophical question,
18:31 innovation doesn't inherently mean
18:33 we're destined to be less safe.
18:34 Oh, OK.
18:35 But it does dictate that the speed
18:37 of our defensive adaptation has to perfectly match
18:40 the blistering speed of our technological adoption.
18:43 And historically, adoption always outpaces adaptation.
18:46 Always.
18:47 So how do we actually close that gap?
18:49 Because the source document offers a very deliberate synthesis
18:51 for navigating this environment.
18:53 It argues that reducing cyber risks
18:55 and building safer digital environments
18:57 requires a strict, three-pronged approach.
18:59 Right.
19:00 You cannot rely on a single defensive layer anymore.
19:03 The text lays out the need to combine advanced technology,
19:06 strong policies, and user awareness.
19:08 So let's break those down.
19:09 First, the advanced technology.
19:11 Right.
19:11 You need the advanced technology.
19:13 The macro level firewalls, the AI driven behavioral
19:16 detection, the end point encryption
19:18 to handle the sheer volume and speed of modern threats.
19:21 Then you need strong policies.
19:23 And that means both internal corporate governance
19:26 enforcing zero trust architecture
19:28 and external government regulations
19:30 ensuring that organizations face
19:31 actual consequences for negligent data handling.
19:34 Yes.
19:35 And the final vital layer is user awareness.
19:39 Right.
19:39 Back to the individual.
19:40 Always.
19:41 Understanding how these systems work,
19:44 understanding the mechanics of a session token theft,
19:46 or the mathematical reality of ransomware,
19:49 it makes you a significantly harder target.
19:51 You aren't just passively relying on a software suite
19:54 to save you.
19:54 Exactly.
19:55 You become an active, critical participant
19:57 in the security of the network.
19:59 It is a holistic ecosystem.
20:01 Because a failure in anyone prong brings the whole thing down.
20:04 Right.
20:04 A failure in the policy layer, say.
20:06 An organization failing to patch known vulnerabilities.
20:10 Well, that renders the advanced technology useless.
20:13 And the best technology in the world cannot stop an attack
20:16 if the user willingly hands over their credentials.
20:19 Well, we have covered a tremendous amount of ground
20:21 today.
20:22 We've mapped the expanded architecture
20:24 of our digital city, detailed the highly specific mechanisms
20:28 attackers use to exploit it, and examined
20:31 the heavy investments required at both the national
20:33 and personal levels to maintain operational trust.
20:36 It's a lot to take in.
20:37 It is.
20:38 But I want to leave you, our listener,
20:40 with a final thought to mull over.
20:42 Something that builds entirely on the trajectory
20:45 this document lays out, but takes it one step further
20:48 into the future.
20:49 OK, let's hear it.
20:50 Well, if the attack surface is expanding infinitely
20:53 through cloud architecture and billions
20:55 of connected devices, and if artificial intelligence
20:58 is simultaneously driving the cost of sophisticated cyber
21:01 attacks down to absolute zero.
21:03 Which it is.
21:04 It really makes you wonder if our fundamental definition
21:06 of security needs to evolve.
21:08 How do you mean?
21:09 Well, for decades, the goal has been prevention,
21:11 building thicker walls, blocking the malware,
21:13 stopping the breach before it happens.
21:16 But in a fully integrated AI-driven world,
21:18 perhaps the idea of absolute prevention
21:20 is just an illusion.
21:22 Shifting the paradigm entirely.
21:24 Exactly.
21:25 Maybe the true future of cybersecurity
21:27 isn't about ensuring the digital walls never fall.
21:31 Maybe the future is about engineering systems
21:33 that are so incredibly resilient,
21:35 they can detect a breach, isolate it,
21:37 and recover normal operations in seconds
21:39 before the end user even notices.
21:42 It's less about preventing the inevitable and more
21:44 about how rapidly we can bounce back when it happens.
21:46 Exactly.
21:47 A sobering, but entirely necessary way
21:49 to look at the systems we rely on every single day.
21:52 Thank you for taking this deep dive with us.
21:55 Keep questioning the architecture around you.
21:57 Keep an eye on your digital footprint,
21:58 and we'll catch you next time.
